Name:Moel Cae'r-defaid West Top
Hill number:3383
Height:531.1m / 1742ft
Parent (Ma):2059  Rhobell Fawr
SMC/RHB Section:30D: Barmouth to Betws-y-Coed and Bala
Nuttall/Wainwright area:The Arenigs
Topographical area:WN05 Siabod-arenig
Class:Dodd (500-599m), Dewey
Grid ref:SH 80079 24691
Summit feature:single stone on rocky knoll
Col:462m  SH798249  
OS map sheet(s):(1:50k) 124 125
(1:25k) OL23E
Observations:grassy knoll 65m SSE at SH 80094 24625 is 1.6m lower
Survey:Leica NA730/Leica 530
Survey of Moel Caer-defaid (Final).doc
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From the south like othersMoorponder18/10/2022
Left the car at the end of the minor road north of Rhobell y big 78802 29243,and followed the ROW to east of summit and then the fun began mostly pathless over Rhobell y big, Rhobell Ganol, Rhobell fawr, Moel Cae'r defaid west & east top and Dduallt. A note of warning the return to the car after dropping off the last summit due north to ford the river, if this is in spate the crossing can be a difficult wide crossing with slippery stones, I got caught out and tried using the south bank to return, This is not advised instead it would probably be best to try and return through the forest near Foel Gron although this could be also be tricky. Nine and half miles in Seven and half hours(GPS suggested Five hours).WAYNE ROWLETT04/06/2022
Drove up from South, through three gates, parked just off the tarmac where it ends at junction of forest roads. No signs saying not to do so, and passing 4x4 vehicle didn't stop.Minto25/05/2022
5/6 (Moel Pen-y-Bryn/Llechwedd Mawr/Bryn Mawr/Cerrig Y Leirch/Moel Cae'r-defiad West Top/Craig y Benglog)Fergalh24/10/2021
Parked through the gate at 796232. Headed directly to the summit mostly on good paths. With Degsy. Headed SE to the east summit.bolton14/10/2021
As others: parked on grass beyond the end of the minor road at SH 797 236. Quick up and down through the fields (initially on tarmac), visiting both West and East tops of Moel Cae'r-defaid.PGCE06/02/2021
4/5 Deweys for the day. Parked by a gate beyond the end of the minor road at SH 797 236. Quick up and down though the fields, visiting both West and East tops of Moel Cae'r-defraid. Great view of Cader from the summit. 3.4km with 220m ascent in 1h20m. (S)silveracorn_alan23/09/2020
Moel Caer - defaid West > Craig y Benglog (Moel Caer - defaid East Top) from GR: SH 79659 23225ronaldo33306/07/2019
Parked at 79668 23252 on the grass. Moel Cae'r-Defraid West Top. Went up the right hand track at the fork, past 246 to a track cutting back which becomes a path at a turning circle and then doubles back again. Continued to E Top. As others state, the key is to find the gap where the wall is falling down at 804245. Also as others state, head for the gate at 799241 on the descent and eventually hit the same track that you went up on. 1h 21mins 5.4km.clivevilla11/12/2018
Park at Cwm allt y lwyd bend 788282,Rhobell y big, Rhobell ganol, Rhobell Fawr, Rhobell fawr west top descend down faint path near wall east to plantation track, down track 600m 797249 then use ride which has easy path SE to to ride going SE to Moel Caer defaid west top, Craig y Benglog. then straight walk to Ddualt cross stream at 80702 25400 ground surprisingly dry. decent from Ddualt N fenceline to ford. Old posts and mesh scattered causing trip hazardunderhill17/11/2018
Parked past gate on road where a vague track makes its way up the hill towards the top. Followed the track until it gave out and then followed a fence. Crossed fence and walked over to the wall mentioned in some postings. Not difficult to cross. Up to top. From top back down to wall, over it and up and across to the west top. Last bit quite steep. Down towards the forest, now flattened and picked up a ride down to the good track. Followed this back to the car. Very dry on ground.MikeM11/05/2017
Noted Mark Ts comments & parked on grass slope just beyond the gate at 7966 2325 Up tarmac road & then track to gate at 799241 Straightforward ascent, straddling small gate 100yds SW of summit knoll. Continued to Craig y Benglog. (S)gerrybowes29/04/2017
Ranger says it's fine to walk up forestry road. Private signs are to keep vehicles out.Deedubr31/03/2017
From Cwm-Hasgen a round of Rhobell-y-big, Rhobell Ganol, Rhobell Fawr, Moel Cae'r-defaid West Top, Craig y Benglog, Dduallt and Ffridd yr Allt-llwyd.rhalstead22/11/2015
Continuation of walk from Craig y Benglog. Descended west to wall, which I crossed with little difficulty at SH 80441 24534, then on up to rocky knoll which is the high point. To descend I followed the forest edge south, turning east at a wall which I followed on to a corner, then through a gate and down by a track to the top end of the lane. Cars could be parked beyond the gate on grass at SH 79668 23252 for a quick way up this hill. I then followed the lane down to a t-junction, then left, leaving it to follow a green lane steeply down back into Rhydymain.Man of Kernow104/01/2015
Parked easily at gate at end of road to S. Track - bit indistinct sometimes but OK. Big wall in between this and 3387 means have to descend.destaylor14/04/2014
Start ~ 788293. Decended down the east side of Rhobell Fawr, took the track south to a junction then climbed east up a fire break to the summit.steve hudson24/02/2009
Small rise beside Forestry on track to Dduallt from SRhayader_wander01/06/2006
fine craggy hill;. cae'r defaid, road @ 797237 RHW09/05/1998
A wonderful rough solo 4hour run circuit of Rhobell Fawr and Ddualt and Deweys 500m tops- form south having dropped L off at Chester for a lacrosse match and collected her later then up to KendaChris Pearson05/10/1996
Steve Q13/10/2019
A Peckish18/04/2019
Alex C26/05/2017
Andy West06/06/2012
Phil M22/10/2011
Martin R25/06/2011
carole engel27/02/2009